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Trying tabbed format

Hi, Charles, thank you for being so willing to share and to experiment. The

code worked well for putting the right nav bar down, but now how do I extent the space. I'm sure it is with a
code. Do I set it at 100% or 130% or what? User:AdkinsWH/Sandbox Co format Thanks, Wilma AdkinsWH 22:33, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Aaahhh! Now I see! Thanks Charles. AdkinsWH 19:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Clickable Maps

Thank you for your suggestions! Much appreciated. joy

Hi Charles,

Wilma Adkins suggested that I contact you in regards to creating clickable map. I am comfortable creating the actual clickable map; however, getting the map ready to be put into the wiki - preparing the image is very time consuming. Please see Pacific County, Washington and the Neighboring Counties map.

I use PowerPoint to prepare the counties which gives multiple counties in other states. Is there an easier way?

My phone number here in SLC is 1-801-240-1491[[Image:]]1-801-240-1491 Talk page wyzer17 email

Thank you in advance for your advice or suggestions.

joy bogar joy

China Genealogies Headers


Thank you for your interest in the China, Collection of Genealogies (FamilySearch Historical Records) article.

I'm a little fuzzy on why you changed the header sizes in the article. Are you talking about having problems when we place text next to the image?

Prior to the great gallery push we placed text next to images, but I don't believe we do now.

If you could explain a little more and maybe give me an example, then we can decide whether to change the header types for all of the Historical Records articles. 

Please contact me prior to making a format change to a single HR article article that will or could affect the oithers, could you make me aware of your suggestion so we can standardize the articles, if necessary.


Dorothy Horan, User Guidance Supervisor 20:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


9th Virginia

Hi Charles, Thanks for the info on the 9th Virginia. Marilyn Markham created the page you reference. We can take a look at it. All the best, Murphynw 23:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I got it fixed. Thanks Charles! 9th Regiment, Virginia Cavalry (Confederate) Murphynw 17:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Design

Charles, when I deleted the image the search box turned into text. Can you fix this? In addition, per Janell's request, would you insert the search box after the image.

Thanks for your help.

Nolaneclark 15:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)


Los Angeles Family History Library

Hi there Ccsmith, I changed the library menu template back to show Mon,Fri,Sat 9 to 5 from your edit Mon - Fri. We are not open the same hours throughout the week. The listing was correct that you changed. We appreciate your concern. It would be more helpful in the future if you let us know what you want us to change on our site, so our Wiki people can work it in if the Library Director approves you input.

Thanks so much, 

Warren Daniel, Los Angeles Family History Library WIKI trainer, for the Library Director

Hello Ccsmith!

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Again, welcome! Kara 14:55, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Virginia parishes

Sorry Elder Smith. I'll fix these Virginia parish categories. I've been doing it piecemeal and will need to figure out which counties each parish serves. Should have it done by the end of the week. Murphynw 17:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Montgomery County, Kentucky Navbox

Hi Charles,

Jimmy suggested that I leave you a note about your work on the Montgomery County, Kentucky page. I see that you have successfully created a county navbox. At the moment you've added the code for the navbox directly to the page, which is OK, but if you wanted to use the navbox on many pages, the way to do this is to create the navbox in the "Template" namespace. If you are new to the wiki this will be new to you, but I'm willing to guide you through the process. --Steve 21:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Blanking out pages

Hi, I'm Dorothy Horan. I work with the pages that describe digital collections published in fsbeta.I've notified that you have blanked out redirects from some articles in the wiki, including ones that we created. When that happens, the wiki users are led to a blank page which might lead them to believe that there isn't another article available to give them that data.

What we need to do with those pages is to mark them for deletion. The redirects are supposed to be temporary until someone who deletes pages can delete the non-essential pages.

Thanks for helping out! Let me know if you have any questions. -- Horandm 30 November 2010.

Categories for US Military categories

Hi Charles, I have today amended some categories relating to US military categories (for example Category:Illinois - Military). I noticed that many of these categories had themselves as the category, resulting in a category loop. The change I've made is to have them added to two category, 1) relating to the state and 2) relating to US State Military Records. I've sorted the state category with the word Military and the US State Military Records with the name of the state. I hope you see the logic behind this change. --Steve 12:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Categories for Civil War Pages

We appreciate your willingness to try to improve the Wiki. We have a team that is creating pages for the Civil War regiments for 33 states. Most pages are not done, so please don't change anything yet. Please contact me before changing anything.

Would you please change all categories of the Ohio in the Civil War pages back to what they were? I really do want Ohio - Military - Civil War, 1861-1865, NOT Ohio - Military. The same for the Arkansas in the Civil War pages. The categories have not be made yet, but I'll do it soon. Thank you, Marilyn


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FamilySearch Centres


Henry995 You have created FamilySearch Centre pages for Britain with Americanised spelling of the word Centre (Center) may I suggest that you edit these to the correct English spelling throughout the page(s) as Americanised spellings are not popular outside the USA/Canada.

I agree with Henry, English users would not search for a family history center but a family history centre. Also do we need to have the word England in the title? Yes with these are the official names, but they are not the common names that patrons would search for. Finally the Isle of Wight is part of England so doesn't need it's own category. --Steve 07:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Charles, I see that you created the page FamilySearch Wiki:Family History Centers Naming and Content. I have added a proposed style guide regarding this issue to that page. --Steve 08:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


Hi Charles, just to let you know that I have created a new stub template {{FHC-stub}} to indentify FHC articles that need filling out with detail. I have included in the stub template a link to the instructions and guidelines for FHC and so I have replace the current code for this link with the template. Once a page has been edited with the details of the center then the stub template can be removed. Until then each article in addition to being categorised by with the other FHC in the same state/country they will be be found in Category:Family History Center stubs. --Steve 12:11, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Jersey Family History Centre

Hi Charles, I see that you have renamed the Jersey Family History Centre to add the city name. However as I explained on the talk page, it is only named this within the LDS Church. As the wiki is written with a general point of view, I think it is important that articles are named using terms that are most common, ie those that will be used by most people to find them. --Steve 07:07, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

North Bend FHC

Good Morning Charles, I'm Sister Heaston and I'm helping on the Wiki team with Wilma Adkins and the Bogars.

I've been putting the information for the Family History Centers in each county. I've run into a problem with the North Bend Family History Center.

It isn't listed in the FHC Profile Database or the US Centers programs. You probably know what these programs are and they keep them updated. I talked to the people who work in these programs and we can't find this FHC.

Could you let me know where you got this information and I will talk to Mark Summerhays and let him know. Thank you really appreciate all the work you have done over the years.

Spanish and Portuguese content in the English wiki

Hi Charles, I noticed that today you have created {{FHC-stub Spanish}} template, and previously the {{FHC page outline Spanish}} and {{FHC page outline Portuguese}} templates. These template belong in either the Spanish or Portuguese Wikis and not in the English language wiki. There is a template {{H-langs}} that can be used to link an English article to the article on the same subject in the other wikis. Content in the English wiki should always be in English. --Steve

Edits to {{FHCpage}}

Hi Charles, please review the comments I have added to the Template talk:FHCpage. I would welcome your feedback. --Steve 05:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Baker City FHC

This might surprise you. I'm native of Baker City, Oregon. FamilySearch continues to use "Baker" instead of "Baker City" despite the fact the locals do not refer to Baker at all since at least 1985. Even the wards there are referred to as Baker City First Ward and Baker City Second Ward and officially as such in meetinghouse locator directory. They are not going to look for Baker Oregon FHC, they're looking for Baker City, Oregon FHC. Dsammy 17:13, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

There is a workaround solution to this. actual page stays and masked Baker Oregon... and type |Baker City Oregon Family History Center. Search engine pick up this one, and nobody the wise to it. Dsammy 19:24, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Downloaded6243127676072404131 Family+history+Center+map.png missing description details

Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as File:Downloaded6243127676072404131 Family+history+Center+map.png is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors to make better use of the image, and it will be more informative for readers.

If the information is not provided, the image may eventually be proposed for deletion, a situation which is not desirable, and which can easily be avoided.

If you have any questions please see Image use. Thank you. --Steve (talk| contribs) 18:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
It's Chandler Arizona. Figured out using two unique crosspoints of two streets. Dsammy 18:57, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Chiang Mai Thailand Family History Center


I note that you started the beginning edits on this Family History Center. Since your first two edits it has been edited by a person named " Anupong". Two questions do you know "Anpong" or who this person is? And why is the Family History Center named after this family Chiang Mai in Thailand? Thanks Charles I am always interested in what you say in the Contributors meetings Dawne 21:47, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article THANK YOU!

Hi Ccsmith,

The FamilySearch Research Wiki is delighted to let you know that the Italy page you helped create has become a Featured Article', highlighted on the Main Page of the Wiki, and will remain there for seven days. Thank you for your excellent work to help others quickly access records. Your contributions are appreciated and will help others find their ancestors.<br>'You have made a difference in research!

Translation template

Hi Charles, following the technical meeting today, I have uploaded a new image File:Ambox translate.png and used this to illustrate a new template {{translation needed}}. I have written some documentation and added some examples. I'm thinking of a way to include a link to where the translated text needs to go, but feel free to let me have any comments on the image and template as they are now. --Steve (talk| contribs) 23:21, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

RecordSearch Template

Hi, I noticed that you created the template "RecordSearch" on the Spanish Wiki. I already created the same template with instructions in Spanish last week but named it "BuscarColección". Since there should only be one copy of each template I redirected "RecordSearch" to "BuscarColección". Hope this OK with you.

The templates are exactly the same except for the name. Using either "RecordSearch" or "BuscarColección" will now work. -- Lotje2 23:36, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

FamilySearch Collection Template

Hi, I noticed you were having a problem with the "FamilySearch Collection" template when you moved it over to the Spanish wiki. I'm guessing that the problem was that some of the headers for the pages you copied to your sandbox weren't working. You were very close in tracking down the problem. Many of the older FamilySearch Historical Records pages use the old template "Record Search article" that redirects to the "FamilySearch Collection" template. So that template needed to be created on the Spanish wiki and redirected as well. I did this and restored the code for the "FamilySearch Collection" template. I think it will work correctly now if you copy and paste the headers from the English wiki. I also updated the categories in the code so all FamilySearch Historical Records Collections moved to the Spanish wiki will automatically categorize into Categoría:Registros Históricos de FamilySearch under the name of the country that is in the location= section of the FamilySearch Collection template. Lotje2 19:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Uploading images

Hi, can you or someone else upload the following images from the English wiki to the Spanish wiki for me. Thanks, Lotje2 21:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Ambox translate.png
  • Deletion icon.svg.png
  • Merge.png
  • Icon-warning.png
  • Important.png
  • Information icon.png
  • Question.png
  • Broom icon.png
  • Move.png
  • Gotoarrow.png
  • Globe.png
  • Books-Computer-Film.png
  • Template-info.svg.png
  • FamilySearchTree.png
  • Help-content.png

Thank you for uploading these. Everything looks more polished with the images added. Lotje2 19:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Known Issues pages

I recently copied the {{HR Known Issues}} template to the Spanish wiki and translated it so that "FamilySearch Historical Records" pages that have a "Known Issues" section and {{HR Known Issues}} flag can be duplicated on the Spanish wiki and will display the flag and link correctly. The template creates a link to the "Known Issues" sub-page for the collection.

I also copied and translated the {{HR Known Issues-page}} header, so that the "Known Issues" pages themselves can be translated and display the header correctly. The templates have the same names as on the English wiki. Lotje2 01:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Help pages

I noticed you were working on translating some of the help pages into Spanish on the English wiki. I copied the templates needed to create pages with "tabs" to the Spanish wiki. This should make it possible for you to move the pages to the Spanish wiki and have them display properly. Lotje2 19:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


I noticed that you appeared to be running the equivalent of several WikiProjects out of your sandboxes. I created a few WikiProject project workspaces on the Spanish Wiki that you can use. You don't have to use them of course, I created them mainly to see if the tabs template and userbox templates were working correctly. If you do choose to use them however, change them however you'd like, they are all yours. I just set them up basically as examples of what can be done. If you don't need them you can mark them for deletion.

Note about tabs on the Spanish wiki: Please notice that I used the Lengüeta templates to create the project workspaces which is different than the Start tab and End tab's used on some of the help pages. Both templates are on the Spanish wiki but the Lengüeta one is more simple.

As I mentioned above, there are userboxes as well, you can now use the meta-template Userbox to create userboxes. Lotje2 18:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Page left on deleted Category. The following page: Template:FHC page outline British spelling has been left on the deleted page Category:Scotland Family History Centers and needs to be moved to. Thanks Charles. Sandralpond 14:00, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk Page Notification

Tag -- You've had a comment posted on your Talk Page for example.

--Ldrew 17:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Maine county pages

The reason I changed the width of the page to 100% is so that when the boxes (Research, Volunteer, etc) on the right are extended they will not cover up the image of the county map. Not everyone will have these boxes in their up position. We could widen the text below these extended boxes for the rest of the material on the page, however. Ccsmith 23:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I've walked in your shoes before--I've done the same kind of edits for exactly the same reason on many a Wiki page. Normally, it is the right choice. However, in these cases I consciously chose to risk having the maps covered up because of a problem unique to "clickable" maps. When a header (Level 1, level 2, level 3, etc.) is positioned to the side of a "clickable" map, the clickability near that header is nullified by a bug in the Wiki. This is a bad thing--worse than covered maps which can be fixed by closing some optional and easy-to-close boxes. The best way to address all the layout problems around these maps, and the least-bad choice, is to risk having covered maps. I'm also trying to keep as much of the geographical data within sight of the map as possible. In time I hope that the pages above the map will be lengthened by additional contributions which put the clickable map beyond the reach of overlapping boxes. Outside of these Maine counties, I completely agree with you. Normally, the page width should only be expanded in such a way so that images and maps appear below the space which is (or could be) occupied by all the open boxes. These Maine counties are just a weird exception. DiltsGD 22:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


I noticed you changed categories for Czech Republic, Croatia, Ukraine etc from the country name to Europe. Is that a new direction to have home pages categorized under Europe instead of the country name? Why? Thank you. Pysnaks 18:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Topics Added

You added several new topics to the Denmark Wiki page. Many of these topics do not even exist in Denmark (for example, there are no such thing as naturalization records in Denmark), some are ok. If you were under a directive to add on these new topics please let me know, otherwise I will need to remove some of these topics. Due to cultural reasons, many native Danes that use the wiki page will be highly offended that "American" topics were added. Thank you for your cooperation. Davidsonnd 08:59, 15 October 2013


The page you just edited:

now has the error message:

Cite error: <ref> tags exist, but no <references/> tag was found

Any page that contains references must contain the tag:


usually at the bottom of the coding, before the Categories.

You also need to add some Categories to this page, such as:

[[Category:Ireland]] [[Category:Northern Ireland]]

--Bromaelor 14:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Romania Portal Page

Hi. I have been working to develop the Romania pages for about six months. As noted with some of the previous comments, I am somewhat confused by your recent revisions to the Romania Portal Page. You listed your edits as minor but they have a major impact on the site. First, I noticed, like the Czech Republic, the category is now listed as Europe and not Romania. Is there a reason for this change? The countries of Europe vary a great deal in their genealogical resources. Second, some of the categories do not seem relevant to Romania or family history. For example, I am not sure what is meant by "Church directories". To my knowledge, Romanian churches do not keep membership directories. Also, the "Dwellings" and "Social Customs" may be nice information, but do not relate to family history. Information on these matters can be accessed in Wikipedia or some similar source. Third, are there any plans to acrually provide information on these topics? Such a long list seems to clutter the page. I am trying to keep the page simple so it can be readily understood by the Romanian members and easily translated to Romanian. Fourth, in adding the additional topics, several page with family history information have been removed from access, including the list of family history records available in Romania, and pages dedicated to citizenship records, guardianship records, guild records, military records, and probate records. The records in the summary are those supplied by the National Archive of Romania to the Family History Department. Am I supposed to re-add these pages? Can we also remove the irrelevant topics. I am trying to prepare the site for training branch members in family history. The first training will be held at the end of this month. Thanks for your help.

Bill Green

Dear Bill You didn't leave me an e-mail address to get back to you, so I will post my response hoping you will read this. I am excited to see folks working on the European pages. Let me go over each of your questions: First: Categories are for putting items in a classification order. For instance, Poodle goes in the Dog Category not the Poodle Category. Now “Romania Birth Records” would go into the Romania Category not in a category of the same name. Likewise, Romania is in theCategory: Europe because it is part of Europe. Second: Yes some of the items under “Topics” may not be useful. This is a template I use for all of Europe. I thought it easier to delete items rather than to add them. Click on the title “Topics” and it will tell you how to delete or add stuff to the sidebar. Third: We want to add material to the red links and are looking for folks to do so. We are always looking for help to add content to these pages. Again if an item is useless, delete it. Fourth: Yes please re-add these links to the items in red under topics. Again, you are free to edit the page as you think best. If you want to streamline the topics, feel free to do so. Click on the headers on the sidebars for instructions to how to edit the individual sections. Hope this helps and if there is anything I can do to help you, please let me know. Charles.............

China, Collection of Genealogies

Ccsmith, thanks for watching the China, Collection of Genealogies (FamilySearch Historical Records) article. I think we'll just get rid of the hyperlink, since it looks like every time someone makes an edit an 'amp;' gets added.

Also, we have our major section headers set at level one, the '==' level, for good article layout and coordination. I noticed you changed all the headers to the level 2, the '===' level. If you could revert that change so the headers are at level one (and the others are at level 2), once that's done I'll fix the citation so the hyperlink is no longer present.

Thanks, User Guidance Dwsmith2 20:10, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Washington County, Ohio

Charles, Thanks for jazzing up the table on the Washington County, Ohio Courthouse page. The folks that wanted to put that up really like what you did with it! All the best, Murphynw 19:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Topics Added

You added several new topics to the Czech Republic home wiki page and many of these topics do not pertain to the Czech Republic. Some could apply. However, in the process you lost links to several important topics which I will now have to restore. I noticed that you did the same thing on other Easter European countries. If you were under a directive to add onto these new topics please let me know, otherwise I will need to remove what does not apply. Also, what do you think? Does not the bar look scary with all these red links? That is why I left it originally in black and not linked. Please be careful not to lose links to already existing information. Thank you so very much. Thank you for your cooperation. Pysnaks 21:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Redlinks.jpg

Thank you for uploading File:Redlinks.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. Please add this information by editing the image description page.

Please refer to the image use policy to learn what images you can or cannot upload on the FamilySearch Research Wiki. Please also check any other files you have uploaded to make sure they are correctly tagged. Here is a list of your uploads. Thank you.

The image in question appears to be a copy of a copyrighted image available via a royalty-free license from iStock --Steve (talk| contribs) 21:07, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the info about height, Charles. I didn't realize I had done a % on a height. AdkinsWH 02:59, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Wilma needs help again

Hi, Charles, do you mind fixing another sandbox page? The right Nav Bar is appearing way up on the page, instead of at the bottom. User:AdkinsWH/Sandbox Co format 2. Thanks for your help.AdkinsWH 13:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. We can't do without your, Charles. You're so helpful and soo willing. AdkinsWH 15:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Oregon Sidebar

Charles, I don't understand why some of the items are on this sidebar. Record selection table is a subheading on a few pages not a page. Basic search and how to find genealogy records are help pages for all page not just a state. And handwriting, states and capital maps, town records may be duplicates of many other pages. Aren't we trying to get red links and duplicates out of the Wiki? Help me understand. Sandralpond 01:25, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

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