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I think the current title of this article may be confusing. It appears looking at the list of parishes that the collection covers that this records from the Diocese of Manchester, the parishes of which are mainly from the historic county of Lancashire, with a few each from Cheshire and Yorkshire. I agree with Angelofnorth who posted about this topic in the thread Indexing project titles for English Diocesan records in the Feedback and Community Support Forums. Collections like this should be named after the diocese and then this article could explain or link to an explanation of the parishes and their historic counties. --Steve 16:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
For a short time this article had a more appropriate name England, Manchester Central Library Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records). It has now been changed again. I accept that the article clearly states that the majority of parishes included in the collection are from within Lancashire , but my fear is that the name of the collection will lead people to believe that it also contains parishes from Cheshire and Yorkshire. --Steve (talk| contribs) 14:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


Thank you for your feedback. Because this is a wiki environment, we rely on contributions and changes made by users in the field. I have forwarded you feedback to the group that makes decisions regarding collection names.

We ordinarily name wiki pages with the same name as the FamilySearch collections they link to. It is generally less confusing for users. However, since boundaries, jurisdictions, and the records themselves have changed over time, some names may not accurately reflect the locality or jurisdiction represented by the records. In addition, some articles have names that differ from the actual collection by design or out of necessity.

The name of this collection has been problematic resulting in the following changes:

The original name of the collection changed so the name of the article was changed to keep it aligned with the collection name.
The name of the collection was modified so the name of the article was changed to reflect modified title.
That article name caused searching problems in the wiki, so it was changed to make it searchable.
The article name was changed to its current name as a compromise to incorporate feedback from users in the field. Feedback from the name indicated that the name
England, Manchester Central Library, Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
was confusing to novice researchers as it did not seem connected to the collection.

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I have reversed the blanking of the talk page. Old comments should not be deleted but they can be archived if they are deemed to have served their purpose. --Steve (talk| contribs) 14:12, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Title of collection

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Why is page entitled England, Manchester Central Library (Lancashire, Cheshire, and Yorkshire) Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records) when there is no such collection named this?  The title should be England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910 - please refer to: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1788853 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maggiliz (talk | contribs) 06:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I can understand the desire to have the name of the collection and this wiki article in alignment. The paramount question is; what should that title be? The title of this article has been changed numerous times:
  • England Manchester Church of England Parish Registers
  • England Manchester Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
  • England, Lancashire – Cheshire – Yorkshire Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
  • England, Manchester Central Library Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
  • England, Lanchashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
  • England, Manchester Central Library (Lanchashire, Cheshire, and Yorkshire) Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
  • England, Manchester Central Library (Lancashire, Cheshire, and Yorkshire) Church of England Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records)
In my opinion a more appropriate name for the collection and this article could be named England, Church of England, Diocese of Manchester Parish Registers (FamilySearch Historical Records). Yes the collection includes one parish from Cheshire and four parishes from Yorkshire, but they are all part of the Diocese of Manchester. Including Cheshire and Yorkshire in the title gives the false impression that the collection includes all the parish records from all three counties. --Steve (talk| contribs) 09:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
This article has been moved/renamed once again, but no explanation has been given as to why. Yes the name of the article and the collection are now the same, but this name is misleading and inconsistent with names given to other collections. For example if this collection includes Cheshire in the title despite only including one parish from that county, why are other collections that include parishes from more than one county, not named similarly? For example England Cornwall Church of England Parish Registers. Note I'm not advocating to rename this to include Devon in the title, but to understand why this collection needs to mention Yorkshire and Cheshire in the title! It would be helpful to have some consistency. --Steve (talk| contribs) 06:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)