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I am rewriting and organzing the England Census Page. Feel free to click the edit button on the right side here and leave an message pertaining to this project or task. Click 'Watch' also so you know if an update has been added to the page.<br>  
 
I am rewriting and organzing the England Census Page. Feel free to click the edit button on the right side here and leave an message pertaining to this project or task. Click 'Watch' also so you know if an update has been added to the page.<br>  
  
The goal is to write about topics and and create subtopics when necessary and when anything becomes to lenghty create a new page and link&nbsp; to it.&nbsp; If someone on the web has created a page on the subject matter then link to it.&nbsp; This 'England Census" page becomes the main reference that highlights the important points. and links to all the pertaining subject matter.
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The goal is to write about topics and and create subtopics when necessary and when anything becomes to lenghty create a new page and link&nbsp; to it.&nbsp; If someone on the web has created a page on the subject matter then link to it.&nbsp; This 'England Census" page becomes the main reference that highlights the important points. and links to all the pertaining subject matter.  
  
The main thing to remember is to keep everything on topic.&nbsp; More to follow...
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Writing is a developing process.&nbsp; Often after writing something it is wise to review the words and sentence and paragraphs to improve upon them.&nbsp; With your own website you are the sole contributor but with a wiki others may change your contribution.&nbsp; Chances are no one will improve upon your work, so review your own writing often.&nbsp; There is no doubt that if you read your work often you will see how it can be changed and improved.
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The main thing to remember is to keep everything on topic.&nbsp; More to follow...  
  
 
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A few things that would be worth adding:  
 
A few things that would be worth adding:  
  
*The exact dates of the census for each of the years for which it's been published. This is often very important to genealogy (eg it can narrow down when a person was born or died).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There is a link in the 'Understanding the Census' section that goes over all these details.&nbsp; It is quite a lengthy page,&nbsp; if we wanted to we could create our own page and link to it but I think the likley thing to do it to expand on the sentences so a person can find that link or perhaps create a Link Section at the bottom of the page.<br>
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*The exact dates of the census for each of the years for which it's been published. This is often very important to genealogy (eg it can narrow down when a person was born or died).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There is a link in the 'Understanding the Census' section that goes over all these details.&nbsp; It is quite a lengthy page,&nbsp; if we wanted to we could create our own page and link to it but I think the likley thing to do it to expand on the sentences so a person can find that link or perhaps create a Link Section at the bottom of the page.<br>  
*Expand this paragraph&nbsp; "The census details have changed little from year to year. There is a detailed listing of the changes made to the census over the years starting in 1841. At GENUKI website you will find an excellent explanation of the census records and availability. (Examples of Census - 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871) NOTE: Many of the websites have not yet updated their pages to include the 1911 census."<br>
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*Expand this paragraph&nbsp; "The census details have changed little from year to year. There is a detailed listing of the changes made to the census over the years starting in 1841. At GENUKI website you will find an excellent explanation of the census records and availability. (Examples of Census - 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871) NOTE: Many of the websites have not yet updated their pages to include the 1911 census."<br>  
*At least a mention of the pre-1841 censuses. Very few records of these survive, but the few that do can be gold dust! Kent FHS have published a few on fiche for instance.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which section does that fit into?&nbsp; I think that a new section or subsection in 'Undertanding the Census'&nbsp; If there is enough info then we could create a new page and link to that.<br>
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*At least a mention of the pre-1841 censuses. Very few records of these survive, but the few that do can be gold dust! Kent FHS have published a few on fiche for instance.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which section does that fit into?&nbsp; I think that a new section or subsection in 'Undertanding the Census'&nbsp; If there is enough info then we could create a new page and link to that.<br>  
 
*Some of the reasons that information in censuses may be wrong. Ages are often wrong (for instance, people who take much younger spouses often find that the years fall away from themselves as well!) Places given as the birthplace may be approximate and may not be the same place as the person was baptised. Often the further people are living away from their birth place, the less precise they are.  
 
*Some of the reasons that information in censuses may be wrong. Ages are often wrong (for instance, people who take much younger spouses often find that the years fall away from themselves as well!) Places given as the birthplace may be approximate and may not be the same place as the person was baptised. Often the further people are living away from their birth place, the less precise they are.  
 
*Perhaps it's also worth mentioning that the way it worked, at least in the earlier years, was that the head of household wrote down the information about all the people therein. Some were more conscientious than others; some felt it indelicate to ask ladies their ages; some with lodgers seem to have guessed.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When we start talking about all the given situations&nbsp; that may or may not apply to a persons situation then I think it could be quite lengthy so a new page would need to be created called ' Census Search Strategies'&nbsp; or smoething down those lines.&nbsp; If someone can't find there ancestor then they would have a page to go to see what other options they have.
 
*Perhaps it's also worth mentioning that the way it worked, at least in the earlier years, was that the head of household wrote down the information about all the people therein. Some were more conscientious than others; some felt it indelicate to ask ladies their ages; some with lodgers seem to have guessed.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When we start talking about all the given situations&nbsp; that may or may not apply to a persons situation then I think it could be quite lengthy so a new page would need to be created called ' Census Search Strategies'&nbsp; or smoething down those lines.&nbsp; If someone can't find there ancestor then they would have a page to go to see what other options they have.
  
 
I could add some of the above if it would be useful. [[User:Stevewest|Stevewest]] 15:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)&nbsp; I hope I have given some ideas that will be of use.&nbsp; Creating a new page is very simple in fact it is to simple&nbsp; In fact you can change the name of a page you do not like as well.&nbsp; <br>
 
I could add some of the above if it would be useful. [[User:Stevewest|Stevewest]] 15:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)&nbsp; I hope I have given some ideas that will be of use.&nbsp; Creating a new page is very simple in fact it is to simple&nbsp; In fact you can change the name of a page you do not like as well.&nbsp; <br>

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How Can the England Census be improved?   Leave your comments

I am rewriting and organzing the England Census Page. Feel free to click the edit button on the right side here and leave an message pertaining to this project or task. Click 'Watch' also so you know if an update has been added to the page.

The goal is to write about topics and and create subtopics when necessary and when anything becomes to lenghty create a new page and link  to it.  If someone on the web has created a page on the subject matter then link to it.  This 'England Census" page becomes the main reference that highlights the important points. and links to all the pertaining subject matter.

Writing is a developing process.  Often after writing something it is wise to review the words and sentence and paragraphs to improve upon them.  With your own website you are the sole contributor but with a wiki others may change your contribution.  Chances are no one will improve upon your work, so review your own writing often.  There is no doubt that if you read your work often you will see how it can be changed and improved.

The main thing to remember is to keep everything on topic.  More to follow...


A few things that would be worth adding:

  • The exact dates of the census for each of the years for which it's been published. This is often very important to genealogy (eg it can narrow down when a person was born or died).                                               There is a link in the 'Understanding the Census' section that goes over all these details.  It is quite a lengthy page,  if we wanted to we could create our own page and link to it but I think the likley thing to do it to expand on the sentences so a person can find that link or perhaps create a Link Section at the bottom of the page.
  • Expand this paragraph  "The census details have changed little from year to year. There is a detailed listing of the changes made to the census over the years starting in 1841. At GENUKI website you will find an excellent explanation of the census records and availability. (Examples of Census - 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871) NOTE: Many of the websites have not yet updated their pages to include the 1911 census."
  • At least a mention of the pre-1841 censuses. Very few records of these survive, but the few that do can be gold dust! Kent FHS have published a few on fiche for instance.                       Which section does that fit into?  I think that a new section or subsection in 'Undertanding the Census'  If there is enough info then we could create a new page and link to that.
  • Some of the reasons that information in censuses may be wrong. Ages are often wrong (for instance, people who take much younger spouses often find that the years fall away from themselves as well!) Places given as the birthplace may be approximate and may not be the same place as the person was baptised. Often the further people are living away from their birth place, the less precise they are.
  • Perhaps it's also worth mentioning that the way it worked, at least in the earlier years, was that the head of household wrote down the information about all the people therein. Some were more conscientious than others; some felt it indelicate to ask ladies their ages; some with lodgers seem to have guessed.      When we start talking about all the given situations  that may or may not apply to a persons situation then I think it could be quite lengthy so a new page would need to be created called ' Census Search Strategies'  or smoething down those lines.  If someone can't find there ancestor then they would have a page to go to see what other options they have.

I could add some of the above if it would be useful. Stevewest 15:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)  I hope I have given some ideas that will be of use.  Creating a new page is very simple in fact it is to simple  In fact you can change the name of a page you do not like as well.