Talk:FamilySearch Indexing: Passenger Lists, FAQ

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The field helps state to index names or passengers listed on cargo manifests. It usually states them as passengers. &nbsp;There are also names listed as "by who shipped" &nbsp;and "to whom consigned" along with an item being shipped. &nbsp;Should these names be indexed? &nbsp;They may not be passengers, but merely people shipping packages.<br>
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Current instructions on the Pennsylvania Philadelphia Passenger lists state to index all names "Index every name on every document, including the names of passengers, crew members, the ship owner, the shipmaster, customs agents, surgeons, individuals who shipped materials, and so on."&nbsp;[https://indexing.familysearch.org/projtab/viewProject.jsf?url=USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/ProjectHelp1.html indexing.familysearch.org/projtab/viewProject.jsf]&nbsp;I was told by online chat support to index ANYONE who belongs to the ship including inspection officers. Also to not index family members who are listed as contacts.
  
Only Passengers are indexed.
 
  
  
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It also states to index all documents with names "In this project, all documents that contain names will be indexed, including passenger lists, crew lists, affidavits, and so on." [https://indexing.familysearch.org/projtab/viewProject.jsf?url=USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/ProjectHelp1.html https://indexing.familysearch.org/projtab/viewProject.jsf?url=USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/ProjectHelp1.html]&nbsp;
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Yet the sample image for affidavits says to mark them NED.&nbsp;[https://indexing.familysearch.org/projects/USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/examples/Example40.html indexing.familysearch.org/projects/USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/examples/Example40.html]
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Indexers and arbitrators have been assuming the gender when F or M are written in afterwards by someone and there is no gender column or explaination of what those letters are.
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We also need a better explaination of where to get the arrival date from if it's not listed at the top. Quite a few indexers and arbitrators are taking it from the departure date and we need to know if this is correct to do. We shouldn't be taking it from the next / previous images as well should we? You're date example only shows what to do if it says Arrival Date.&nbsp;
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The field helps state to index names or passengers listed on cargo manifests. It usually states them as passengers. &nbsp;There are also names listed as "by who shipped" &nbsp;and "to whom consigned" along with an item being shipped. &nbsp;Should these names be indexed? &nbsp;They may not be passengers, but merely people shipping packages.<br>
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Only Passengers are indexed.
  
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The passenger list indicates country of origin as County Down, County Donegal, etc. indicating the word county each time whereas the look up list only indicates the name of the county such as Down, Donegal, etc.&nbsp; However, there are counties included on the passenger list that are not on the look up list; should we include the word county each time or not.&nbsp; In other words, do we follow the look up list or do we "type what we see".  
 
The passenger list indicates country of origin as County Down, County Donegal, etc. indicating the word county each time whereas the look up list only indicates the name of the county such as Down, Donegal, etc.&nbsp; However, there are counties included on the passenger list that are not on the look up list; should we include the word county each time or not.&nbsp; In other words, do we follow the look up list or do we "type what we see".  

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Current instructions on the Pennsylvania Philadelphia Passenger lists state to index all names "Index every name on every document, including the names of passengers, crew members, the ship owner, the shipmaster, customs agents, surgeons, individuals who shipped materials, and so on." indexing.familysearch.org/projtab/viewProject.jsf I was told by online chat support to index ANYONE who belongs to the ship including inspection officers. Also to not index family members who are listed as contacts.


It also states to index all documents with names "In this project, all documents that contain names will be indexed, including passenger lists, crew lists, affidavits, and so on." https://indexing.familysearch.org/projtab/viewProject.jsf?url=USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/ProjectHelp1.html 

Yet the sample image for affidavits says to mark them NED. indexing.familysearch.org/projects/USPennsyPhiladelphiaPLists18831945PartB/examples/Example40.html


Indexers and arbitrators have been assuming the gender when F or M are written in afterwards by someone and there is no gender column or explaination of what those letters are.

We also need a better explaination of where to get the arrival date from if it's not listed at the top. Quite a few indexers and arbitrators are taking it from the departure date and we need to know if this is correct to do. We shouldn't be taking it from the next / previous images as well should we? You're date example only shows what to do if it says Arrival Date. 




The field helps state to index names or passengers listed on cargo manifests. It usually states them as passengers.  There are also names listed as "by who shipped"  and "to whom consigned" along with an item being shipped.  Should these names be indexed?  They may not be passengers, but merely people shipping packages.

Only Passengers are indexed.



The passenger list indicates country of origin as County Down, County Donegal, etc. indicating the word county each time whereas the look up list only indicates the name of the county such as Down, Donegal, etc.  However, there are counties included on the passenger list that are not on the look up list; should we include the word county each time or not.  In other words, do we follow the look up list or do we "type what we see".


Q: On the NY Passenger lists, can we use the "Show Precious Image" to obtain family surname or nationality?


 Passenger lists, lines crossed out

I am working on alien passengers coming into new orleans. Q: Nine lines are crossed out, but somewhat readable, I cant find info on what to do......any advice???


R:  On the census projects, they have had us index the info that had been crossed out.  I have done it both ways and am awaiting the results in my reviews.  However, if you want an answer now, go to the "Help" tab at top right and then click on "Contact Family Search".  There will be an option to chat online live.  They've helped me several times.

Chinese names

Also addressing Chinese entering the States .. the form says

Indiviual name/ Wong

family name/ Wing

tribal name/ Fooe

But the template asks for :  Surname/  Given names.......  The way I saw this is

Surname/ Wing      Given name/ Wong Fooe

Anyone know the correct way???

Thanks

8/6/2012

Question re: ship name

Even when the ship name is not on the very page being indexed, it is quite often readily available by examining the prior page or next page.  Should it be indexed?  The same holds true for year of arrival.

Arbitrators are marking the indexing of the ship name from the prior or next page as wrong, in favor of a  blank.

Are you supposed to index the individuals that are crossed off because they didn't embark?