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I am a relatively new indexer. I have completed 402 records in nine months. I now set goals for myself which I committ myself to. I was looking at this list of current project updates to see if there were any U.S. Wisconsin projects, and there are none. Would there possibly be any in the future? {{tlp|Helpme}}  
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== Sortable  ==
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Page was way better last week when it was sortable. Now i have to go back to coping and pasting into my own spreadsheet again just so I can sort it. <span style="font-size:90%;">— Preceding [[FamilySearch Wiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aprilrobertson|Aprilrobertson]] ([[User talk:Aprilrobertson|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Aprilrobertson|contribs]]) 19:35, February 13, 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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:Hi April, I have reapplied the table formatting so that the table can be sorted on any of the columns. I hope that in future the table contents are amended so that the formatting remains. Although it appears that maybe the whole page is replaced from a working copy of the data held in another place. I say this as I noticed that the category was also lost in the most recent updates. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 16:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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Sortability comes and goes: some weeks it's there, some (like now) it's not. Can we please either make the list permanently sortable, or always sort it by project name? (Sorting it by percentage is like offering a cemetery directory sorted by plot number: utterly useless except in some very unlikely scenarios.) -- [[User:JPmiaou|JPmiaou]] 18:40, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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:Hi, I have today changed the formatting (once again) so that the table is sortable. I can not guarantee that the formatting will not get overwritten next time the information is updated, but I'm hopeful that everyone can agree that it is better when it is sortable. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 12:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Missing Projects  ==
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Projects are missing. For example, New Jersey, County Marriages. Granted that less than 300,000 records have been indexed, but if you are going to exclude new projects from the&nbsp;% and also exclude them from the new project list, please explain why. Example: "Projects with less than ___ records will not be listed here." <span style="font-size:90%;">— Preceding [[FamilySearch Wiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:McCormickMW|McCormickMW]] ([[User talk:McCormickMW|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/McCormickMW|contribs]]) 00:40, February 9, 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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== Project Order  ==
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I'd find the data more useful and accessible if the projects were in alpha order by project name rather than by percent complete. <span style="font-size:90%;">— Preceding [[FamilySearch Wiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Oxxguy|Oxxguy ]] ([[User talk:Oxxguy|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Oxxguy|contribs]]) 15:06, August 23, 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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*One of the old pages had a table that could be sorted by column. That would be helpful here. <span style="font-size:90%;">— Preceding [[FamilySearch Wiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Garymaher|Garymaher]] ([[User talk:Garymaher|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Garymaher|contribs]]) 03:37, September 3, 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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== Percentages  ==
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I'm not clear on the meaning of the percentages. Is it the percent of indexed batches that have been arbitrated? Is it the percent of all batches in the project that have been arbitrated? <span style="font-size:90%;">— Preceding [[FamilySearch Wiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Garymaher|Garymaher]] ([[User talk:Garymaher|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Garymaher|contribs]]) 03:37, September 3, 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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There needs to be wiki project update pages for each and every project. People have lots of questions and some of the current update pages are somewhere between nonsense and totally useless with no information and almost totally useless.
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For instance, the 1930 Puerto Rico Census.. NOTHING.. People have questions on names and other things.. between Project Instructions, the empty Project Updates page, Field Helps, and Basic Guidelines.. there is no answer..
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Also, the Civil War Headstones project,&nbsp; Indiana marriages, Illinois, Chicago- Catholic Church Records... also have no helpful wiki page.
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In case you are not familiar... with a wiki update page.. people can ask a question on the discussion tab... and FSI and update/answer the question on the main wiki page for that project.&nbsp; Here is an example of a Project Update wiki page: https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Indexing:_US,_New_England%E2%80%93Naturalization_Index_1791-1906,_Project_Updates
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A Update wiki page needs to be created for each project AND the discussion page needs to be created so that people can click on the discussion tab to ask their questions.
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Thankyou. <span style="font-size:90%;">— Preceding [[FamilySearch Wiki:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ezink|Ezink]] ([[User talk:Ezink|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Ezink|contribs]]) 15:50, September 13, 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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== Indexing Projects Update Page  ==
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Why do you NOT read what you are saying?
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You reference https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/FamilySearch_Indexing_Updates
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<br>to answer my question of what&nbsp;% of the US Colorado 1885 State Census is <u>'''INDEXED.'''</u>The link you sent me tells me what&nbsp;% of the US Colorado State Census is <u>'''ARBITRATED'''</u>!&nbsp; I take it from this scenario that no one knows what&nbsp;% of the Colorado 1885 State Census is <u>INDEXED</u>.
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Thanks for nothing.&nbsp; Or maybe you don't even know the difference between Indexed and Arbitrated?
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Patricia A Johnson, Fort Collins, Colorado 22:52, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
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:After reading the above I realize I have no idea as to the up keep process to this page. Indexing is crucial to FamilySearch Historical Records. This page I would imagine, would be of great value to those who have a “need to know” the statistics of the Indexing projects they are working on. I have had several patrons ask about the statistics of an Indexing project. This is one of few pages that gives this information. But today is the 21st of May and the date on the page is only the 9th. Could this page be updated more often? Today I was going to send the link to help answer a patron’s question. But I don’t think 2 weeks behind would benefit him.
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:Janett Ackerman Call, May 21, 2012
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My rate was low beacuse tehre is no mention about the Italy Torino projects. Where are they?
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You should note that all those batches that are&nbsp;properly indexed are not mentioned as your rating is going down.-
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== 1855 New York State Census  ==
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The New York State Census for 1855 has been completely indexed for a while now. &nbsp;I realize that it is still in arbitration, but, why can't the census images be released? &nbsp;I helped index it and would gladly help with the arbitrating, but, I am not yet qualified to be an arbitrator. &nbsp;
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SInce the number of qualified arbitrators is kind of small, compared to the number of indexers, why do we have to wait to see the images. &nbsp;The arbitrating will be done eventually. &nbsp;The indexing is where the bulk of the work needed to be done, and it is done.
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The 1865 census wasn't indexed, but it is already available. &nbsp;Why can't we just release the 1855 census? &nbsp;I don't mind having to scroll through entire towns to find family members. &nbsp;I always do that anyway. &nbsp;It helps me learn more about the areas my family lived in. &nbsp;
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Would it be possible to update this information every week or two? That would be marvelous! {{helpme-helped}}
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:Unfortunately, the Indexing Team does not have the manpower to check all of the Talk pages associated with their projects. The updates are posted as they are given to the team and then posted as soon as possible. [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 22:35, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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The "Projects Update" page for "FamilySearch Indexing Updates" tells me things like "UK, Lancashire—Church of England, 1541–1910 [Part A]" is 57% complete and "UK, Manchester—Central Library Parish Registers (Marriages), 1754–1936, Part 2" is 39% complete. Useful if you are working on those parts.
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''But ''... I&nbsp;wish to know the percentage complete for the ''whole ''projects, i.e. ''all ''parts of "UK, Lancashire—Church of England, 1541–1910" and ''all ''parts of "UK, Manchester—Central Library Parish Registers (Marriages), 1754–1936". Where is this documented?<br>
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It may be that it is not possible at this stage to give a percentage as the full size has not been calculated. If that is so, then can we please be told the definitions for the Parts that have been identified, as clearly this is elementary configuration management for the project. If Parts A, B and C consist of films 1 thru 5 (say) then I'm perfectly capable of working out how many films remain.
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As it is, knowing that Part 2 is 39% complete tells me nothing about overall Project progress since I&nbsp;have no idea whether there are only 2 parts or 22.
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<br>Thanks for your contribution to indexing! There is definitely a chance that there will be more Wisconsin projects. We just don't know exactly how far into the future they may be available for indexing. Just keep watching for them.&nbsp;:) --[[User:GaleK|GaleK]] 22:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)  
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This page really needs to be updated more. &nbsp;There's projects in the percentage lists that have been completed a couple months ago, for example the Canada Ontario Marriages, and projects that are not in the list at all. &nbsp;If there are ways we can help update it I will. &nbsp;I come and look at it for the&nbsp;%s which the normal person can't update.&nbsp; &nbsp;-- April Robertson 10:50, 15 June 2011 (MST)
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:Thank you for your concerns. Unfortunately Indexing doesn't have the manpower to monitor these pages. Send an email to support@familysearch.org with the name of the project in the title for timely response.  
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Sortable

Page was way better last week when it was sortable. Now i have to go back to coping and pasting into my own spreadsheet again just so I can sort it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aprilrobertson (talk | contribs) 19:35, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hi April, I have reapplied the table formatting so that the table can be sorted on any of the columns. I hope that in future the table contents are amended so that the formatting remains. Although it appears that maybe the whole page is replaced from a working copy of the data held in another place. I say this as I noticed that the category was also lost in the most recent updates. --Steve (talk| contribs) 16:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sortability comes and goes: some weeks it's there, some (like now) it's not. Can we please either make the list permanently sortable, or always sort it by project name? (Sorting it by percentage is like offering a cemetery directory sorted by plot number: utterly useless except in some very unlikely scenarios.) -- JPmiaou 18:40, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I have today changed the formatting (once again) so that the table is sortable. I can not guarantee that the formatting will not get overwritten next time the information is updated, but I'm hopeful that everyone can agree that it is better when it is sortable. --Steve (talk| contribs) 12:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Missing Projects

Projects are missing. For example, New Jersey, County Marriages. Granted that less than 300,000 records have been indexed, but if you are going to exclude new projects from the % and also exclude them from the new project list, please explain why. Example: "Projects with less than ___ records will not be listed here." — Preceding unsigned comment added by McCormickMW (talk | contribs) 00:40, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Project Order

I'd find the data more useful and accessible if the projects were in alpha order by project name rather than by percent complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oxxguy (talk | contribs) 15:06, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

  • One of the old pages had a table that could be sorted by column. That would be helpful here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garymaher (talk | contribs) 03:37, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Percentages

I'm not clear on the meaning of the percentages. Is it the percent of indexed batches that have been arbitrated? Is it the percent of all batches in the project that have been arbitrated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garymaher (talk | contribs) 03:37, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

There needs to be wiki project update pages for each and every project. People have lots of questions and some of the current update pages are somewhere between nonsense and totally useless with no information and almost totally useless.

For instance, the 1930 Puerto Rico Census.. NOTHING.. People have questions on names and other things.. between Project Instructions, the empty Project Updates page, Field Helps, and Basic Guidelines.. there is no answer..

Also, the Civil War Headstones project,  Indiana marriages, Illinois, Chicago- Catholic Church Records... also have no helpful wiki page.

In case you are not familiar... with a wiki update page.. people can ask a question on the discussion tab... and FSI and update/answer the question on the main wiki page for that project.  Here is an example of a Project Update wiki page: https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/FamilySearch_Indexing:_US,_New_England%E2%80%93Naturalization_Index_1791-1906,_Project_Updates

A Update wiki page needs to be created for each project AND the discussion page needs to be created so that people can click on the discussion tab to ask their questions.

Thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezink (talk | contribs) 15:50, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Indexing Projects Update Page

Why do you NOT read what you are saying?

You reference https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/FamilySearch_Indexing_Updates


to answer my question of what % of the US Colorado 1885 State Census is INDEXED.The link you sent me tells me what % of the US Colorado State Census is ARBITRATED!  I take it from this scenario that no one knows what % of the Colorado 1885 State Census is INDEXED.

Thanks for nothing.  Or maybe you don't even know the difference between Indexed and Arbitrated?

Patricia A Johnson, Fort Collins, Colorado 22:52, January 1, 2012 (UTC)



After reading the above I realize I have no idea as to the up keep process to this page. Indexing is crucial to FamilySearch Historical Records. This page I would imagine, would be of great value to those who have a “need to know” the statistics of the Indexing projects they are working on. I have had several patrons ask about the statistics of an Indexing project. This is one of few pages that gives this information. But today is the 21st of May and the date on the page is only the 9th. Could this page be updated more often? Today I was going to send the link to help answer a patron’s question. But I don’t think 2 weeks behind would benefit him.
Janett Ackerman Call, May 21, 2012

FamilySearch Indexing Update

My rate was low beacuse tehre is no mention about the Italy Torino projects. Where are they?

You should note that all those batches that are properly indexed are not mentioned as your rating is going down.-

1855 New York State Census

Hi,

The New York State Census for 1855 has been completely indexed for a while now.  I realize that it is still in arbitration, but, why can't the census images be released?  I helped index it and would gladly help with the arbitrating, but, I am not yet qualified to be an arbitrator.  

SInce the number of qualified arbitrators is kind of small, compared to the number of indexers, why do we have to wait to see the images.  The arbitrating will be done eventually.  The indexing is where the bulk of the work needed to be done, and it is done.

The 1865 census wasn't indexed, but it is already available.  Why can't we just release the 1855 census?  I don't mind having to scroll through entire towns to find family members.  I always do that anyway.  It helps me learn more about the areas my family lived in.  


Thanks,


Gerard Karcher

Would it be possible to update this information every week or two? That would be marvelous!
Unfortunately, the Indexing Team does not have the manpower to check all of the Talk pages associated with their projects. The updates are posted as they are given to the team and then posted as soon as possible. averyld 22:35, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Progress for a Whole Project

The "Projects Update" page for "FamilySearch Indexing Updates" tells me things like "UK, Lancashire—Church of England, 1541–1910 [Part A]" is 57% complete and "UK, Manchester—Central Library Parish Registers (Marriages), 1754–1936, Part 2" is 39% complete. Useful if you are working on those parts.

But ... I wish to know the percentage complete for the whole projects, i.e. all parts of "UK, Lancashire—Church of England, 1541–1910" and all parts of "UK, Manchester—Central Library Parish Registers (Marriages), 1754–1936". Where is this documented?

It may be that it is not possible at this stage to give a percentage as the full size has not been calculated. If that is so, then can we please be told the definitions for the Parts that have been identified, as clearly this is elementary configuration management for the project. If Parts A, B and C consist of films 1 thru 5 (say) then I'm perfectly capable of working out how many films remain.

As it is, knowing that Part 2 is 39% complete tells me nothing about overall Project progress since I have no idea whether there are only 2 parts or 22.


AdrianB38 21:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


Thank you for your concerns. Unfortunately Indexing doesn't have the manpower to monitor these pages. Send an email to support@familysearch.org with the name of the project in the title for timely response.
Parrisl 22:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
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