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The Roger Clark family has been searching the microfilmed church records from the villages in Bukovina (now Chernivtsi oblast) where the Baba and Gido's familes originated. They found the later records written in Romanian, earlier records in a mixture of Ukrainian Cyrillic characters and Roman characters. This mixture is within the same entry, and often within the same name. The book Ukrainian Genealogy-A Beginner's Guide has been very helpful as it has information about both languages, and other info family history researchers haven't tapped into yet. Here's a link to a description of the book.  [http://www.halgal.com/pihach_book_review.html Book Review]
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*[http://odessa3.org/collections/stpete/gros/ Grossliebental -1833-1885 BMD's from the St. Petersburg Lutheran Evangelical Archives]<br>
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== Film for Sloboda Raranze Raranche Slobodzia  ==
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Sloboda records have names written in Romainian, Austrian, Russian. &nbsp;It is a small village about 30 miles east of Chernivitsi. &nbsp; The LDS Church Microfilm for this village is &nbsp;1245-9/112, and 113, and 117, and 119, and 120. As well as ... 1245-1/872, &nbsp;1245-16/75, &nbsp;1245-16/76, &nbsp;1245-16/77
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An offer of collaboration in working in this area, as they have many contacts in this village, is advised to connect with&nbsp;Roger Clark at&nbsp;[[roger@Glenwood.ca|roger@Glenwood.ca&nbsp;]]
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Some Greek Orthodox and and Roman Catholic Church records are online at: http://www.halgal.com/halgal_new4.asp  
 
Some Greek Orthodox and and Roman Catholic Church records are online at: http://www.halgal.com/halgal_new4.asp  
  
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The researcher should not be misled by the header page that was inserted at the time the records were copied onto microfilm. The death records of 1848-1889 together with the register and index originate not from the West Prussia Kulm, but from the colony in Bessarabia that took the name Kulm in the early 1800s.  
 
The researcher should not be misled by the header page that was inserted at the time the records were copied onto microfilm. The death records of 1848-1889 together with the register and index originate not from the West Prussia Kulm, but from the colony in Bessarabia that took the name Kulm in the early 1800s.  
  
=== FamilySearch Historical Record Collections ===
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=== FamilySearch Historical Record Collections ===
  
An online collection containing this record is located in [https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1771086 FamilySearch.org.]
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An online collection containing this record is located in [https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1771086 FamilySearch.org.]  
  
A wiki article describing this collection is found at:
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A wiki article describing this collection is found at:  
  
[[Ukraine_Births_and_Baptisms_(FamilySearch_Historical_Records)|Ukraine Births and Baptisms (FamilySearch Historical Records)]]
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Revision as of 15:49, 26 November 2012

Researching tips and help:

The Roger Clark family has been searching the microfilmed church records from the villages in Bukovina (now Chernivtsi oblast) where the Baba and Gido's familes originated. They found the later records written in Romanian, earlier records in a mixture of Ukrainian Cyrillic characters and Roman characters. This mixture is within the same entry, and often within the same name. The book Ukrainian Genealogy-A Beginner's Guide has been very helpful as it has information about both languages, and other info family history researchers haven't tapped into yet. Here's a link to a description of the book.  Book Review

Web Sites

Film for Sloboda Raranze Raranche Slobodzia

Sloboda records have names written in Romainian, Austrian, Russian.  It is a small village about 30 miles east of Chernivitsi.   The LDS Church Microfilm for this village is  1245-9/112, and 113, and 117, and 119, and 120. As well as ... 1245-1/872,  1245-16/75,  1245-16/76,  1245-16/77

The Clark family has had trouble searching these out.

An offer of collaboration in working in this area, as they have many contacts in this village, is advised to connect with Roger Clark at roger@Glenwood.ca 


Some Greek Orthodox and and Roman Catholic Church records are online at: http://www.halgal.com/halgal_new4.asp

Kulm Church Records: The Real home of International film 71824

Death records, kept from 1848 to 1880 for the city of Kulm/West Prussia together with a family register and an alphabetical index were microfilmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah. The Family History Library call number of the film is 71824 and was catalogued under Evangelical Church Records, Kulm (Stadt), West Prussia.

In 2008, in an effort to make the family register more user-friendly and readily accessible, discrepancies between the catalogue description and the content of the film were discovered. While spot checking certain birth, marriage and death dates with other records from this locality, nothing would match. Family names such as Banko, Flegel, Raugust.etc.,and other genealogical data, did not appear in the other records of the Evangelical Church for Culm/West Prussia. Neither could the parishioner's names be found in Catholic or Mennonite records.

In the death records for 1848-1880, the family names were mostly German. The place of birth was mainly Culm, but other place names outside of West Prussia appear in the record. More confusing was the fact that the scribe treated some place names as if they were not part of the area, but as far-removed localities as a foreign country. Birth entries, for example, sometimes indicate that a person had been born in "Prussia" in 1770, 1783, 1777. Why, then, would Culm (West Prussia) and Prussia be treated as two different entities?

Going back in history, we learn that the Province of West Prussia did not exist until 1772. Before that, West Prussia (with Culm) was part of Poland and was referrred to as "Polish Prussia". The records of the Evangelical Church of Kulm/West Prussia begin in 1772; the Catholic records begin in 1640 and start out in Latin and Polish - a reflection of the historical situation.

To further complicate matters, the place name Culm or Kulm does exists in the Kingdom of Saxony, Brandenburg, Posen and Thüringen. It was not possible to match family names from any of these areas against the records contained in film 71824.

Another avenue of research was to check settlements outside Germany. It turned out that a colony named Kulm existed in Bessarabia, Akkermann, Russia. Birth, marriage and death records for this locality matched the family register from "Kulm/West Prussia" exactly. All of the previous research problems could now be explained.

The colony of Kulm in Bessarabia was founded in 1814. The village was first known as Madar. Later it received the name Kulm in rememberance of the victory of the allies against Napoleon I in 1813 at Culm (but in Northern Bohemia). The modern name for the Bessarabian Kulm is Pidhirne, Tartyne, Odesa, Ukraine.

The researcher should not be misled by the header page that was inserted at the time the records were copied onto microfilm. The death records of 1848-1889 together with the register and index originate not from the West Prussia Kulm, but from the colony in Bessarabia that took the name Kulm in the early 1800s.

FamilySearch Historical Record Collections

An online collection containing this record is located in FamilySearch.org.

A wiki article describing this collection is found at:

Ukraine Births and Baptisms (FamilySearch Historical Records)