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== FHL template for an author search?  ==
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Hi, Steve. Is there an FHL template where a search can be done by name of the author? I want to be able to search for ward records, all of which have the beginning of "Church of Jesus Christ..." and end with the specific ward. That would make it easy to change ward by ward. Any ideas? [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 02:59, 13 December 2012 (UTC)  
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Hi Steve, A website address has changed on us. Would it be possible to have a bot replace http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/stco_wall_2003/stco_wallmap.htm with http://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/maps/county_wall.html ? Thanks for your consideration, [[User:Murphynw|Murphynw]] 19:20, 21 August 2013 (UTC)  
  
:Hi Wilma, I have briefly looked at this issue.It may be possible to add the functionality to the {{tl|FHL}} template, but more investigation needs to be undertaken done before I can answer and hopefully implement your request. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 13:49, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Nathan, I have actioned [[Special:ReplaceText]] to replace the URL as given above. I notice that these were all in the [[File namespace]]. I used the [[Special:LinkSearch]] and the results suggest that I have changed them all. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 15:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
  
::Thanks, Steve! [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 21:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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::Excellent. Yes, they should have all been in the [[File namespace]]. Thanks Steve! [[User:Murphynw|Murphynw]] 21:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
  
=== Progress ===
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== Making the width of the Digital Collections templates equal to the width of the infobox templates ==
  
Hi, again, Steve. Any progress on this? I'd like to search for authors like "Salt Lake City 4th Ward Utah." I think we don't have to include the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." that precedes it. Thanks again. AdkinsWH 18:50, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Steve. On nearly every US county page, the Digital Collection banner is above the infobox template, yet they do not exactly line up with each other. See [[Crane County, Texas]] for example. Any way to fix the width of those banners? In the ones we were playing with, the instuction | info-w = 500px had NO effect, even changing it to 600 px. [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 21:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)  
 
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:Hi Wilma, apologies for taking my time to get around to develop this for you. I think I have amended the {{tl|FHL}} template so that a parameter can be specified to search for a "corporate name" For example {{tlx|FHL|Salt Lake City 4th Ward Utah|corporate}} produces {{FHL|Salt Lake City 4th Ward Utah|corporate}}. You can change the link/displayed text by using the {{xt|disp}} parameter. Let me know if this produces the results you were hoping for. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 22:54, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
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== England Parish Histories  ==
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2012 was a good year for the Suffolk Parish pages. There have been a few instances where volunteers have sought to tear down what I have built rather than improve it. What volunteers I have come across have no interest in collaborating, rather they have an agenda of copying and pasting similar dialogue on every page. What they are copying and pasting is rather weak material. Parish History Section - I cannot accept that a short one or two sentences with a link to a gazetteer should be in anyway be considered a parish history. The approach to the Parish History Section is very simple. Enter websites, links and references in the body of the page and once a sufficient amount of material has been found, then a history can be written based on those sources from a genealogist perspective. A new wiki article should be created, [[England - Writing a Parish History]]. This short gazetteer entry currently being introduced should be moved or put in the Maps and Gazetteers Section. Pertaining to Suffolk pages I noticed recently that someone is entering those gazetteer entries again and at the same time removing the link to the Suffolk Gazetteer page. Could you use the text replace function to place a link to the Suffolk Gazetteer page in the Maps and Gazetteer section for every parish in Suffolk? [[User:Donjgen|Donjgen]] 18:36, 26 December 2012 (UTC) I'll also place a copy of this over on [[User talk:MannAE]] page.
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:Hi Don, I agree that there is room for improvement in the way that contributors work together and not at cross purposes to each other. I'm sure that the majority of wiki contributor have the same goal to improve the content of the wiki and I really feel that [[WikiProject]] pages can help with this by setting out long term vision for a collection of similar pages, for example [[Suffolk Parishes]]. Contributors by reviewing the project page information can then be directed to articles, like the one you suggested, so that a consistent approach is taken with developing similar pages. The Parish History section and what kind of content should be placed here is a good example of where this collaboration could achieve much good. I will look into restoring the links to the [[Suffolk Gazetteers]] page. Before I take action I will investigate how best to do this. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 13:58, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Steve: I could take the time to create a [[WikiProject - Suffolk Parishes]] but I have seen such anemic participation. Since I am focusing on Suffolk, I would expect participation from people in East Anglia. There needs to be a person in East Anglia that would promote participation.<br> What are the goals? I haven't seen clear goals. I see some people have a goal of putting a short snippet of a gazetteer in the parish history section with a link for every parish in England. I see that some have a goal of putting the same template in the census section of every parish in England. I see some people have a goal of recording all the possible online church records for parishes in specific counties in England. There are only a few that have focused on a single parish or parishes. The goals for the [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject English parishes]] need to be specific. This idea of going from parish to parish putting the same snippet of information is a poor goal. Any body can goggle any parish in England and get all the information they need. How are the England parish pages going to be different? How is it going to be different from genuki? After years of slow growth it should become apparent that a different approach should be taken. This lack of England participation has to tell us that [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject English parishes]] needs to have specific goals that will lead to more participation. '''WikiProject_English_parishes''' pages needs to be rewritten and redeveloped. People should put there focus on a specific county or district. Thats my take on what I see [[User:Donjgen|Donjgen]] 20:48, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
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== Projects  ==
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Steve, I'm trying to update the status of wiki projects. &nbsp;I'm assuming that the England and English Parishes projects are ongoing. &nbsp;Is that correct? &nbsp;Percent complete? [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 16:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Also, Wales and New Common Taxonomies [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 23:10, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Lynda, yes these projects are all ongoing. The [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject England|England]], [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject English parishes|English parishes]] and [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Wales|Wales]] WikiProjects are all similar in that the purpose of these projects is to improve the articles about these localities. They are very hard therefore to say how complete they are. Tasks within a project can more easily be stated as x% complete.
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:The [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject New Common Taxonomy|WikiProject New Common Taxonomy]] is in my mind, more of a foundational document, setting out the top-level categories to be used for research topics. It was renamed as a WikiProject by [[User:JensenFA|Fran Jensen]] and although I agree it belongs in the [[FamilySearch Wiki namespace]], I think it falls more into the realm of [[FamilySearch Wiki:Policies|policy]] - meaning that it defines how the taxonomy is organised/to be used in the wiki rather than being a project in which a goal is to be achieved.  
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:Further to our discussion yesterday, I have created the {{tl|WikiProject status}} template. There are still some tidying up to do around this template, but you can start using them if you like. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 14:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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Steve, thanks so much for this information and the templates look great! &nbsp;I hope you have a small idea of how much you are appreciated! [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 18:36, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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:For the inactive template, the page is&nbsp;[[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProjects Seeking Contributors/Inactive|FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProjects Seeking Contributors/Inactive]]. I'm not sure if doing it as a sub page is the best way to go, but that's how it is for now. [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 18:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC) &nbsp;Also, I put the template on the [[FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Alabama|Alabama]] page and it looks like it didn't add it to the Inactive category.
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::Hi Lynda, the categories associated with the template {{tl|WikiProject status}} are now being added when the template is used. I think setting up the list of inactive projects as a sub-page is the way to go. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 22:04, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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:::Thank you! &nbsp;Thank you [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 22:27, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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== Thank you  ==
 
== Thank you  ==
  
Thank you Steve I did not understand, thank you for your help {{unsigned|Jenson1| 16:38, 6 February 2013 (UTC)}}
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Steve, I completely missed that you added the silver star to my page last month. Thank you so much! I have really enjoyed working on the wiki and will miss it a lot. And many thanks to you for everything you have given to the program over the last few years. You are one of our stalwarts and deserve a silver star yourself. In fact, I'm going to go give you one now.&nbsp;:) I'm glad to know that although we as staff members might come and go, there are people like you who are always willing to give. Thank you. -- [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:VasquezJL|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/VasquezJL|contribs]]}} 18:35, 18 October 2013 (UTC)  
 
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== Categories that don't show up in edit  ==
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We, the category committee, are working on cleaning up the Categories. One items that is a problem for us is the few categories that don't show up in edit so we can fix or remove them. Example is Category:Mexican_Family_History_Centers it has two pages [[Puebla Mexico Mayorazgo Family History Center]] and [[Tapachula Mexico Izapa Family History Center]]. Since the category is a duplicate of Category:Mexico_Family_History_Centers. I tried to remove the two page from Category:Mexican Family History Centers but they will not show in edit. Have a few others. Would like to ask if there is something we can do to understand this and work with it. [[User:Sandralpond|Sandralpond]] 03:49, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Sandra, the pages in question were being added to this category via the <tt>location</tt> parameter in the {{tl|FHCpage}} template. By changing the parameter value from <tt>Mexican</tt> to <tt>Mexico</tt>, this changed the category, clearing out the unwanted category, which I have now deleted. I hope that helps explain how this was occurring. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 05:05, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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== Internal Links opening in a new tab/page ==
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Hi Steve, I'd like to revisit the idea of all internal links on FamilySearch open in a new tab or page. You mentioned last summer that it could be done for all links on the wiki through engineering. Is it a hard fix? In your opinion, what are the chances of them doing it if we asked? Unfortunately, I have a meeting every week at 2pm so I can't go to the tech meeting to ask. [[User:Batsondl|Batsondl]] 23:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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:I know there is a setting to change the behaviour of external link (see MediaWiki [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExternalLinkTarget Manual:$wgExternalLinkTarget]). Do you mean external links? Or do you want a new window opened whenever a user goes to a different page in the wiki. I'm not sure, as a user if I would find that useful. In fact I'm certain I would find it annoying. I can't think of any website that automatically opens a new window when a link is followed. It is rare nowadays for this to happen for "external link" although I do remember when it was in vogue to do so. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 14:16, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
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Oh, no not just a wiki page. No I meant when they click on a database or digital book on FamilySearch. Sorry about the confusion. We are doing some user testing and when they click on a FS database it doesn't open a new page and then they lose their place and can't find the wiki page they were on to see other sources, databases or instruction. I've always hated that myself. Is there a way to just open those and not all wiki pages? Maybe in the templates we use? [[User:Batsondl|Batsondl]] 16:21, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
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:OK, so are you talking about the links for example, in the header of articles about record collections, that follow the text ''Access the records:''. Eg [[England Births and Christenings (FamilySearch Historical Records)]]? Are you also talking about links to books, films in the FHLC? --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 14:17, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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Changing the Historical Records pages would be awesome but Dorothy might not agree to that. I haven't talked to her. Yes, it's those in our locality article pages that link off to the databases, books, films in the FHLC. I was thinking maybe the templates we use for them would be changed. Although I'd love for it permanently to change all of them (which in turn would change Dorothy's HR pages) but I don't see engineering getting a chance to do it anytime soon. But the truth is, I've never asked. Can changing the templates work? I'm thinking of the FSbook, FHL, and RecordSearch templates. [[User:Batsondl|Batsondl]] 17:31, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Danielle, can you try the links you were interested in again. We raised this issue in the [[Tech Meeting]] and we believe it has now been fixed. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 21:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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== User Canada and User Canadian templates reply  ==
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''reply to [[User talk:Saskgenweb#Hello_and_Thank_you]]''
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Thank you most kindly. I looked at some already started, and they seemed to go back and forth betwixt ancestry and residnce templates.&nbsp; I like your idea a lot! I am just new here, good find on the flag, I missed it in my first peek around and about for some reason.
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Kind Regards [[User:Saskgenweb|Saskgenweb]] 00:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)  
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:You're welcome. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 13:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
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== DeLuca  ==
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Steve, you moved content from this page to the user talk page, but now we can't get this off the pages to be patrolled. I tried to restore it to do that, but no luck. Could you fix it so that we can mark it patrolled and then get rid of it? [https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/index.php?title=DeLuca&redirect=no&rcid=1255324 DeLuca] Thanks! [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 22:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Lynda, I have marked this page as patrolled. I'm not sure why you wouldn't have been able to do it. Please let me know if it's still an issue. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 20:13, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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== Brackets Problem  ==
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Steve, I have this interesting problem and David Dilts could not help me. He said that for whatever reason, the template cannot handle single brackets. Here is the page: https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Czech_Republic_Getting_Started Down at the bottom are two tips. Tip: Join a Community of Czech researchers! Ask questions, help others, and share your research success on [Facebook] and/or Skype. Tip: For more learning see the tutorials at FamilySearch Learning Center on [Czech Republic Archives]. We cannot get rid of the brackets. These are external links and every time we do single bracket the text disappears. Can you please help me? Thank you. [[User:Pysnaks|Pysnaks]] 22:12, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Sylvie, I have fixed the links in the {{tl|tip}} templates you directed me to on the page [[Czech Republic Getting Started]]. I have also added an example to the template description page to show how this was/can be achieved. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 06:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you very much, Steve. I really appreciate your quick response.[[User:Pysnaks|Pysnaks]] 15:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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== Search and replace link  ==
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Steve, we've found a link on British pages that needs to be deleted and there are a &nbsp;lot of them. We though you could do a search and replace when you have some time. [[Ramsgate Holy Trinity, Kent|Ramsgate]] is a good example. Under Census records, there's a link to the FHC portal that shouldn't be in the Wiki. Hostelery added this to many British pages a year or two ago. The link should only be used in the FHC's and by missionaries, etc. Even though it doesn't work to get you into Ancestry, etc. if you don't already have that access on your computer, the link shouldn't be there. If you can help, I'd greatly appreciate it. [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 18:51, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Lynda, I have replaced the majority of all the external links to the FHC Portal to a new article [[Family History Center Portal]]. The [https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=http%3A%2F%2Ffhc.familysearch.org%2F handful remaining] did not match search string wikicode and will be easier to tackle individually. I found that the link in addition to be included on many English parish pages was included in the template used to create the hundreds of FHC pages. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}}
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Steve, thanks so much! [[User:Averyld|averyld]] 22:01, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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== Template Categories  ==
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Thank you so much for the tip about how to deal with these with noinlcude. I did notice the problem but had not gone to our best source, you, to get help. Thanks so much will go back to as many as I can to correct. [[User:Sandralpond|Sandralpond]] 20:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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:Hi Sandra, I have changed some myself as it was causing some issues with pages, {{tl|Infobox/row}}, {{tl|Infobox US State}} and {{tl|Infobox country}} being the main ones. For some it will not cause display issues, only add a template category to the page that is not needed. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 20:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you I am learning a lot from this. Another question. Is the following really a template or just a holding page for a future template. When I try to put the noinclude it will not stay and if it put the {{ on it is red. Think I will need to remove these categories. Thanks so much. [[User:Sandralpond|Sandralpond]] 14:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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== Old/Unused Page and Category  ==
  
:Hi Sandra, it's not clear to me what your question is. You ask " Is the following really a template or just a holding page for a future template." Would you please clarify or link to the object/page in question. Thanks. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 16:09, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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We on the Wiki Support Team have been reviewing categories and their pages in an effort to streamline the categories. In regards to the template page {{tl|Okina}} , we were wondering if this page and it's category, [[:Category:MSIE font fix templates]] continue to be needed. [[User:Parrisl|Parrisl]] 03:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)  
  
Sorry forgot to put in the link: [[Template:LondonStDunstanEastChurch]] There are many many of this type pages but they don't appear to me to be real templates. [[User:Sandralpond|Sandralpond]] 18:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)  
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:Hi LaVera, it looks like that template is not currently being used in any content pages of the wiki, however I think the need for it could reoccur, so I have added a documentation subpage that explains why the template has been created. Hope that helps. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 21:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
  
:HI Sandra, they are templates but created for a specific purpose. They are used as a workaround to the problem of the rich text editor removes captions from images. The category that has been created for them is [[:Category:Ampersand avoidance templates]]. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|
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== Digital Collections Button  ==
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Great, thanks so much. Will use it for them. [[User:Sandralpond|Sandralpond]] 13:17, 3 May 2013 (UTC)  
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Steve, I was working on Davidson County, Tennessee on the DC button - have changed from the "keyboard" to a treble clef and clock - and it has changed all other states - of which I had NO intention of doing. Not sure what to do to get the keyboard back into other states. [[User:Wyzer17|joy]] 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)  
  
Hello Steve, We just removed a strange topic on the Baden page&nbsp;sidebar&nbsp;but were told later that you probably should have done that.&nbsp; If so, It was for Merchant Marine and Heraldic visitations.&nbsp; Has the removal affected others.&nbsp; In the past it hasn't but perhaps this changed.  
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:Hi Joy, it appears that you edited the {{tl|DC button}}, which is the underlying template used on many of the individual state versions. The template that you should have edited for Tennessee is {{tl|TNDC}}. I have copied the code you worked on for Tennessee to this template. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 21:59, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
  
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== FHL template place link not working  ==
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Hi, Steve, The catalog has changed for U.S. place name searches. It now requires United States, then the state. Do we need to go in an physically change each one where we have used the FHL template? I don't want to do any changes until I know what magic you can do with this. I don't want a situation where we have {{FHL|United States, United States, [state].... for example. [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 16:50, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  
Hi, Steve, I've tried a link using the FHL Template for a place search: {{FHL|Utah, Beaver|place|disp=county items}}. What have I done wrong? I get an "Oops" [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 21:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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== New External Link template? ==
  
:I think this is a bigger issue than you first thought. It looks to me as if the format of URL for FHLC searches has changed, and that the {{tl|FHL}} template need a overhaul so that the links in the wiki using this template will work. In short it's not something you have done, but changes made by the FamilySearch engineers. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 20:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Steve. We need an external link template for Ancestry.com, since we will increasingly point to specific items for a state or county. (Not census and the big stuff.) The problem arises when we may now need 3 links: 1 for the FHL (AncestryInsititution.com); another for whatever the LDS Account link will be, and the third for just Ancestry.com. What they will all have in common is the database ID. For example: http://search.ancestryinstitution.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2117
  
::Not good news. So does the FHL template need updating? Or is it fixable by us — or more accurately — you? [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 04:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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If we don't have all three links, do you suggest we just tell people how to access it each time we make the link? Would love your take on how to handle this. Thank you, thank you. [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 16:41, 3 April 2014 (UTC)  
  
::Steve, do you suggest I just start direct linking to place instead of the template? [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 23:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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:[[User:Murphynw|Nathan]] has previously created three templates {{tl|Ancestry}}, {{tl|AncestryInstitution}} and {{tl|AncestryLibrary}} that creates 3 different URLs. At the moment you can't change the link text - it will always say link. I think that could be changed to allow the contributor to provide different link text. Also is what you really asking for is to have one template that produces all three links in one go? --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 17:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
  
::Steve - you are wonderful! the place search is working again, and I understand you are working hard on some of the other searches. Can't thank you enough! [[User:AdkinsWH|AdkinsWH]] 21:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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== Creating a list of family organizations  ==
  
Hi Steve, is the linking to the catalogue changed permaantly. Its been dysfunctional for a long time. I have about 100 links using the {{FHL|England%2C+Suffolk%2C+Badingham|subject|disp=Badingham}} format <nowiki>{{FHL|England%2C+Suffolk%2C+Badingham|subject|disp=Badingham}} </nowiki><br> It looks like its not a good idea to link to the catalog anymore. Maybe will have to wait till the Beta period ends, which appears not to be anytime soon. [[User:Donjgen|Donjgen]] 04:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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Steve, I have some questions about the design changes on an article that lists family organizations that have a Facebook page. See [[Surname Pages and Groups on Facebook]]. We are expanding that list to include family organizations with a website and/or Facebook page. We have questions about the layout design of the page and welcome your suggestions:  
  
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*There are a lot of family organizations so we want to create alphabetical links to a separate page for each letter of the alphabet. I'm pretty sure there is a template we can use for this. Do you know if there is an article in the wiki that is already using the TOC template with links to sub-pages? I'm thinking it would be easier to copy what has already been done, rather than figure out how to do it from scratch.
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*Should there be a separate column just for the surname of the organization? I believe the content would be easier to visually scan if the surname was the only text in the first column, but there could be 100 "Smith" family organizations, so maybe the idea is not so great. Suggestions?
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*Does a separate column for the Facebook page and another column for the website link work okay? Any other suggestions?
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*The list currently has a short description of the family organization. Should we continue adding this content? Is the description helpful to those who are looking for family organizations?
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*What about family organizations without a website or a Facebook page? There are a lot of organizations who can only be accessed through snail-mail. Should this content be added as well?
  
Steve, could you take a look at the formula over at&nbsp;my [https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/User_talk:MannAE#Help_me_create_template Help_me_create_template]&nbsp;page? You made a few adjustments while at WDYTYA conference, but I have not been able to remember what adjustment you made, and I can't get the template to work. I need help.[[User:MannAE|Alan]] 05:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)  
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Thanks in advance for your suggestions. I have added the same list of questions to the discussion page of the article. [[User:JensenFA|Fran]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:JensenFA|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/JensenFA|contribs]]}} 20:26, 21 April 2014 (UTC)  
  
== Idaho page I messed it up  ==
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Hi, Steve, I'm screaming for help. Somehow, I made a serious mistake on the Idaho page this afternoon (using wyzer17 username). The top of the page should have the image, the online collections banner, and probably the counties list. Then below the info box, the text should fill more space right to left. I tried undoing, but not soon enough. So I was trying and trying, but only filled up a lot do edit history.
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:Hi Fran, good to hear from you. There was already in the wiki a template that did this for categories {{tl|CatAZ}} but I could not find a TOC Template that would link to pages in series. I found a suitable template in Wikipedia and have ported it over to the wiki. It is called {{tl|A-Z multipage list}}. It's note quite looking as good as it could, so I will be tweaking it. I have set up the "H" page in this series [[Surname Pages and Groups on Facebook: H]], other pages would need to follow that format. I know you have asked for more feedback and I will try to come back on those as well. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 16:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)  
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::Thanks Steve! We are going to be making the changes today to the page and add all the subpages. We are trying to decide on the name of the page we should change it to because the purpose of the page has expanded to more than Facebook. We will include all family organizations that we can find, so we need to link to those who have websites, Facebook pages, a Wiki page, or include their mailing address if that's the only way to contact them. So now the page name needs to be more inclusive of all organizations, associations, groups, etc. Hope to have all the pages set up today and ready to populate! [[User:JensenFA|Fran]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:JensenFA|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/JensenFA|contribs]]}} 18:09, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
  
Hope you can once again come to the rescue. I'll be at the meeting tomorrow, but then out of town until next Tuesday.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Wilma Adkins 10:34 pm, 23 July, 2013. My iPad doesn't have tildes.
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== Welcoming Committee ==
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== Testing a new template<br> ==
  
Hi Steve,  
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Hi Steve, With all the discussions about the wiki becoming outdated (and all the outdated pages I have come across) I thought something like this might help ([[Template:Auto-outdated|Template:Auto-outdated]]). I know there is a maintenance template to mark outdated articles but this is a slightly different approach to keep them from becoming outdated in the first place. Is anything like this currently available? I realize the parser calculations are a bit lengthy but until functions like “AgeParse” are available this is the only way I could figure out how to do it; the 1970 calculation would not work without storing a variable.<br>
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<br>Questions: Is there a way to limit the initial parameter to positive integers? Is the use of <nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki> necessary in the coding in place of the bar? Is there an advantage to using named versus unnamed parameters for inputting the categories? Is there a way to overcome the unusual glitch wherein the resulting categories are not added to the category page, [[:Category:Auto-outdated]], unless a null edit is performed (even though they are added to the page itself)?<br>Thanks for your patience as I am still learning.
  
As the new lead for the welcoming committee I wanted to get acquainted with the other members. I read your User Page and am impressed with your knowledge and experience. It is my hope that you will remain an active member of the committee. Please let me know your intention.
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Sincerely,<br>[[User:Parrisl|Parrisl]] 21:33, 29 July 2013 (UTC)<br>Welcoming Committee Lead &nbsp;
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== Maintenance tag on an archived page.<br> ==
  
== Bot? ==
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Steve, on a related note (but separate), there is a maintenance tag on an archived page ([[Community News/Archive 2|Community_News/Archive_2]]) that was inadvertently saved with the archive and is now showing up in the outdated category listing. I was going to replace the current tag with a "notice" box with the text transferred to the new box (just to eliminate of the maintenance tag) but it is requested that the archive page not be edited. Is it okay to make this correction? Luccagenes 17:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)<br>
  
Hi Steve, A website address has changed on us. Would it be possible to have a bot replace http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/stco_wall_2003/stco_wallmap.htm with http://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/maps/county_wall.html ? Thanks for your consideration, [[User:Murphynw|Murphynw]] 19:20, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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Repaired (removed from category page) by adding the empty category as the parameter for the "outdated" template <nowiki>{{outdated|category=}}</nowiki>. Luccagenes 21:22, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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Bot?

Hi Steve, A website address has changed on us. Would it be possible to have a bot replace http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/stco_wall_2003/stco_wallmap.htm with http://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/maps/county_wall.html&nbsp;? Thanks for your consideration, Murphynw 19:20, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nathan, I have actioned Special:ReplaceText to replace the URL as given above. I notice that these were all in the File namespace. I used the Special:LinkSearch and the results suggest that I have changed them all. --Steve (talk| contribs) 15:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Excellent. Yes, they should have all been in the File namespace. Thanks Steve! Murphynw 21:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Making the width of the Digital Collections templates equal to the width of the infobox templates

Hi, Steve. On nearly every US county page, the Digital Collection banner is above the infobox template, yet they do not exactly line up with each other. See Crane County, Texas for example. Any way to fix the width of those banners? In the ones we were playing with, the instuction | info-w = 500px had NO effect, even changing it to 600 px. AdkinsWH 21:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Steve, I completely missed that you added the silver star to my page last month. Thank you so much! I have really enjoyed working on the wiki and will miss it a lot. And many thanks to you for everything you have given to the program over the last few years. You are one of our stalwarts and deserve a silver star yourself. In fact, I'm going to go give you one now. :) I'm glad to know that although we as staff members might come and go, there are people like you who are always willing to give. Thank you. -- janellv (talk| contribs) 18:35, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Old/Unused Page and Category

We on the Wiki Support Team have been reviewing categories and their pages in an effort to streamline the categories. In regards to the template page {{Okina}} , we were wondering if this page and it's category, Category:MSIE font fix templates continue to be needed. Parrisl 03:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi LaVera, it looks like that template is not currently being used in any content pages of the wiki, however I think the need for it could reoccur, so I have added a documentation subpage that explains why the template has been created. Hope that helps. --Steve (talk| contribs) 21:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Digital Collections Button

Steve, I was working on Davidson County, Tennessee on the DC button - have changed from the "keyboard" to a treble clef and clock - and it has changed all other states - of which I had NO intention of doing. Not sure what to do to get the keyboard back into other states. joy 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Joy, it appears that you edited the {{DC button}}, which is the underlying template used on many of the individual state versions. The template that you should have edited for Tennessee is {{TNDC}}. I have copied the code you worked on for Tennessee to this template. --Steve (talk| contribs) 21:59, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

FHL template

Hi, Steve, The catalog has changed for U.S. place name searches. It now requires United States, then the state. Do we need to go in an physically change each one where we have used the FHL template? I don't want to do any changes until I know what magic you can do with this. I don't want a situation where we have {{FHL|United States, United States, [state].... for example. AdkinsWH 16:50, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

New External Link template?

Hi, Steve. We need an external link template for Ancestry.com, since we will increasingly point to specific items for a state or county. (Not census and the big stuff.) The problem arises when we may now need 3 links: 1 for the FHL (AncestryInsititution.com); another for whatever the LDS Account link will be, and the third for just Ancestry.com. What they will all have in common is the database ID. For example: http://search.ancestryinstitution.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2117

If we don't have all three links, do you suggest we just tell people how to access it each time we make the link? Would love your take on how to handle this. Thank you, thank you. AdkinsWH 16:41, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Nathan has previously created three templates {{Ancestry}}, {{AncestryInstitution}} and {{AncestryLibrary}} that creates 3 different URLs. At the moment you can't change the link text - it will always say link. I think that could be changed to allow the contributor to provide different link text. Also is what you really asking for is to have one template that produces all three links in one go? --Steve (talk| contribs) 17:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Creating a list of family organizations

Steve, I have some questions about the design changes on an article that lists family organizations that have a Facebook page. See Surname Pages and Groups on Facebook. We are expanding that list to include family organizations with a website and/or Facebook page. We have questions about the layout design of the page and welcome your suggestions:

  • There are a lot of family organizations so we want to create alphabetical links to a separate page for each letter of the alphabet. I'm pretty sure there is a template we can use for this. Do you know if there is an article in the wiki that is already using the TOC template with links to sub-pages? I'm thinking it would be easier to copy what has already been done, rather than figure out how to do it from scratch.
  • Should there be a separate column just for the surname of the organization? I believe the content would be easier to visually scan if the surname was the only text in the first column, but there could be 100 "Smith" family organizations, so maybe the idea is not so great. Suggestions?
  • Does a separate column for the Facebook page and another column for the website link work okay? Any other suggestions?
  • The list currently has a short description of the family organization. Should we continue adding this content? Is the description helpful to those who are looking for family organizations?
  • What about family organizations without a website or a Facebook page? There are a lot of organizations who can only be accessed through snail-mail. Should this content be added as well?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions. I have added the same list of questions to the discussion page of the article. Fran (talk| contribs) 20:26, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi Fran, good to hear from you. There was already in the wiki a template that did this for categories {{CatAZ}} but I could not find a TOC Template that would link to pages in series. I found a suitable template in Wikipedia and have ported it over to the wiki. It is called {{A-Z multipage list}}. It's note quite looking as good as it could, so I will be tweaking it. I have set up the "H" page in this series Surname Pages and Groups on Facebook: H, other pages would need to follow that format. I know you have asked for more feedback and I will try to come back on those as well. --Steve (talk| contribs) 16:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Steve! We are going to be making the changes today to the page and add all the subpages. We are trying to decide on the name of the page we should change it to because the purpose of the page has expanded to more than Facebook. We will include all family organizations that we can find, so we need to link to those who have websites, Facebook pages, a Wiki page, or include their mailing address if that's the only way to contact them. So now the page name needs to be more inclusive of all organizations, associations, groups, etc. Hope to have all the pages set up today and ready to populate! Fran (talk| contribs) 18:09, 30 April 2014 (UTC)



Testing a new template

Hi Steve, With all the discussions about the wiki becoming outdated (and all the outdated pages I have come across) I thought something like this might help (Template:Auto-outdated). I know there is a maintenance template to mark outdated articles but this is a slightly different approach to keep them from becoming outdated in the first place. Is anything like this currently available? I realize the parser calculations are a bit lengthy but until functions like “AgeParse” are available this is the only way I could figure out how to do it; the 1970 calculation would not work without storing a variable.

Questions: Is there a way to limit the initial parameter to positive integers? Is the use of {{!}} necessary in the coding in place of the bar? Is there an advantage to using named versus unnamed parameters for inputting the categories? Is there a way to overcome the unusual glitch wherein the resulting categories are not added to the category page, Category:Auto-outdated, unless a null edit is performed (even though they are added to the page itself)?
Thanks for your patience as I am still learning.

Luccagenes 14:16, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


Maintenance tag on an archived page.

Steve, on a related note (but separate), there is a maintenance tag on an archived page (Community_News/Archive_2) that was inadvertently saved with the archive and is now showing up in the outdated category listing. I was going to replace the current tag with a "notice" box with the text transferred to the new box (just to eliminate of the maintenance tag) but it is requested that the archive page not be edited. Is it okay to make this correction? Luccagenes 17:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Repaired (removed from category page) by adding the empty category as the parameter for the "outdated" template {{outdated|category=}}. Luccagenes 21:22, 27 July 2014 (UTC)