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::I think it is needed. Take a look at what is being done on this page - [[Bahia Blanca Argentina Villa Mitre Punta Alta Family History Center]]. See the link from the English page of the FHC to the Spanish page of the FHC? The idea was that the phrase "See center resources in:" would explain that there is more information on the page in that native language page. This variable wouldn't be used elsewhere except for on these center pages, and it's not redundant if you remove the "In other languages" phrase. Another option is to have a variable like "For additional information:" to show that the page in the other language will be more complete than the page in English. That one could have more widespread use than just on the center pages. The phrase "In other languages:" makes it seem like the pages are going to be equal in both languages. [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] 15:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 
::I think it is needed. Take a look at what is being done on this page - [[Bahia Blanca Argentina Villa Mitre Punta Alta Family History Center]]. See the link from the English page of the FHC to the Spanish page of the FHC? The idea was that the phrase "See center resources in:" would explain that there is more information on the page in that native language page. This variable wouldn't be used elsewhere except for on these center pages, and it's not redundant if you remove the "In other languages" phrase. Another option is to have a variable like "For additional information:" to show that the page in the other language will be more complete than the page in English. That one could have more widespread use than just on the center pages. The phrase "In other languages:" makes it seem like the pages are going to be equal in both languages. [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] 15:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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:::I do not agree at this point. I would guess that the person on that page does not know about the template. As you probably know, the idea originated from Mediawiki or Wikipedia, not that we have to do everything the way they do things. However, it is my opinion that it would add a level of complexity that the Wiki really does not need. It is already too complex for many authors as is. "In other languages" is used no matter where the article originated, which one is more complete, or whatever state they may exist. If an author needs to choose between "In other languages", "For more information", "See center resources in", or any number of options, I believe it would add confusion. If "In other languages" meant that the articles were equal, that would mean that if I add information to the one in English, then I should have to go to all the other languages and indicate that English has more information. My opinion also is that if an article is in more than one language, one should list them all together as well, not saying one has more information than all the other languages. I believe the idea is really that one can go read an article in another language, no matter how complete it is. [[User:Thomas_Lerman|Thomas_Lerman]] 16:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

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Is there a way that we could have the "In other languages" text be a variable, and if an FHC, have a parameter make it say: "See center resources and services in:" instead? We are working on the pages for countries who speak other languages and so will just put a few details, then link to the page in that language, see https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/User:Ccsmith/Sandbox janellv 04:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Most anything is possible. However, whether it is really practical or really needed may be up for discussion. The way this template is done is that it works perfectly no matter which language the use is displaying in without any translation. Also, it provides consistency for all pages and languages. It would seem to me that "See center resources..." would really be redundant with "In other languages" as they both would go to the same page in another language. Anyway, that is my opinion at this time. Consistency and language agnostic are both very nice and important. Thomas_Lerman 05:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I think it is needed. Take a look at what is being done on this page - Bahia Blanca Argentina Villa Mitre Punta Alta Family History Center. See the link from the English page of the FHC to the Spanish page of the FHC? The idea was that the phrase "See center resources in:" would explain that there is more information on the page in that native language page. This variable wouldn't be used elsewhere except for on these center pages, and it's not redundant if you remove the "In other languages" phrase. Another option is to have a variable like "For additional information:" to show that the page in the other language will be more complete than the page in English. That one could have more widespread use than just on the center pages. The phrase "In other languages:" makes it seem like the pages are going to be equal in both languages. janellv 15:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
I do not agree at this point. I would guess that the person on that page does not know about the template. As you probably know, the idea originated from Mediawiki or Wikipedia, not that we have to do everything the way they do things. However, it is my opinion that it would add a level of complexity that the Wiki really does not need. It is already too complex for many authors as is. "In other languages" is used no matter where the article originated, which one is more complete, or whatever state they may exist. If an author needs to choose between "In other languages", "For more information", "See center resources in", or any number of options, I believe it would add confusion. If "In other languages" meant that the articles were equal, that would mean that if I add information to the one in English, then I should have to go to all the other languages and indicate that English has more information. My opinion also is that if an article is in more than one language, one should list them all together as well, not saying one has more information than all the other languages. I believe the idea is really that one can go read an article in another language, no matter how complete it is. Thomas_Lerman 16:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)